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Help with OSHCamp 2026 publicity.
by Andrew Back 02 Jul '26

02 Jul '26

Hi All, I was a bit late in finalising the programme for this year's Open Source Hardware Camp and opening up registration. Hence any help folks could offer in spreading the word would be very much appreciated! Feel free to reuse the text from the announcement email I sent a couple of weeks ago, and of course details can also be found at: https://oshug.org/event/oshcamp2026 Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Back https://abopen.com

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Open Source Hardware Camp 2026 — Sat 29th & Sun 30th August, Hebden Bridge.
by Andrew Back 19 Jun '26

19 Jun '26

Hello, I'm pleased to announce that we have a total of 11 talks and 3 workshops confirmed for Open Source Hardware Camp 2026! As in previous years, there will be a social event on the Saturday evening. The Wuthering Bytes festival is not running this year, but will hopefully make a return in 2027. Cheers, Andrew // Open Source Hardware Camp 2026 On the 29th August 2026, 09:00 Saturday morning - 16:00 on the Sunday afternoon at The Birchcliffe Centre, Birchcliffe Road, Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, HX7 8DG, UK. Registration: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/open-source-hardware-camp-2026-tickets-19922… Open Source Hardware Camp 2026 will take place in the Pennine town of Hebden Bridge, which is approximately 1 hour by rail from Leeds and Manchester. Budget accommodation is available at the Hebden Bridge IOU Hostel. Details of other local accommodation can be found at www.hebdenbridge.co.uk and via Airbnb and Booking.com etc. There will be a social event on the Saturday evening from 7PM. Any questions should be directed to the Discussion List. Open Source Hardware Camp 2026 is dedicated to the memory of Ken Boak (1966-2026), a founding member of the group, a prolific contributor and a good friend to many. *** Saturday :: Talks *** — Technical Cartoons for Fun (and Profit?) What happens if you combine a traditional text book, a bunch of hand drawn diagrams, and a cartoon robot? Electro-Magnetic Compatibility (EMC) has a reputation as one of the more mysterious electronics subjects. This project is an attempt to make learning about this subject more intuitive and fun through the power of cartoons. In this talk, James will touch on the subject of Electro-Static Discharges (ESD), inspirations behind this project, different learning styles, the self-publishing process, and lessons learned along the way. * James Pawson is an electronics engineer, trainer, practitioner of the dark arts (EMC), and now author. — Clean-room reverse engineering the ATTiny 1-series On Chip Debugging peripheral The 1-series is a range of ATtiny microcontrollers released by Microchip in 2016. They contain an avrxmega3 CPU and a UPDI interface for programming and debugging. The vendor datasheet for the part documents the UPDI protocol and provides information to use the the Chip Erase, NVM programming and User Row Programming functionality. The information provided also allows the interactive reading and writing of the entire CPU Data Space, which allows host-side interaction with main memory and the on chip peripherals. As a result, these features are all well supported in open source tools. Finally, the UPDI chapter of the datasheet promises a range of debugging features including hardware breakpoints, run-time readout of program counter, stack pointer and CPI status registers for code-profiling and program flow control (go, stop, reset, step into). However it is silent on the details required to make use of them. In this talk Andy will explain the how he reverse engineered the On Chip Debugger to write a datasheet that has been used to implement a GDB Server for these devices. * Andy Bennett is a highly skilled technologist, business leader, entrepreneur and problem solver with almost 20 years experience working in technology. He has worked in a wide variety of industries including government, finance, higher education and consumer electronics. He has a passion for new technologies and has often been at the forefront of pioneering research, development and new product launches, offering both strategic oversight and hands-on development. — A tale of two tiles: custom chips at home Open source silicon provides ordinary people with an opportunity to manufacture real chips! Hundreds of people have made their own designs, but what does the journey look like? This talk will cover the who, what, how and why of the process, with a look at two of Kristaps’ own submissions and a light dive into tools that make it possible. * Kristaps Jurkans is a recent graduate of the University of Lincoln, an open source hardware and software enthusiast, and a big fan of disassembling anything just to learn more about it. — What does the future hold for an electronics engineer in the age of AI? Unless you have been hiding under a rock for the last few years, you will have noticed that the world is changing at an unprecedented pace. The rise of Large Language Models (LLMs) is impacting all areas of knowledge work, doubly so for technology related roles. So, what does the future hold for an engineer as we move into this new era? In this talk we will take a look at some exploratory work Alan has been performing over the last year or so to see what's possible with LLMs in the open source hardware space, and what this might mean for the future of open engineering in general. We will look at some of the tools that are already available, and some of the exciting possibilities that are on the horizon. We will also discuss some of the challenges that we will need to overcome in order to fully realize the quality, educational and productivity benefits emerging in OSHW. So, if you are an electronics engineer, a hobbyist or just interested in the future of open source hardware, this talk is for you! * Alan Wood has been working with embedded electronics and FPGAs for many years. His recent work includes smart grids, 3D printers, robotics, automation biotec diagnostics, flow computation, measurement and multi protocol integration. His current research is focused on multilayer concurrency, mixed language models for complex systems, linux and Rust based embedded development, realtime testing, capture and analysis. He is a long term advocate of open source communities, previously a moderator (aka Folknology) for xCORE, the co-founder of myStorm open hardware FPGA community, as well as a co-founder of Surrey and Hampshire Makerspace. — RISC-V — the road to ubiquity Systems based on the open source RISC-V instruction set architecture are becoming more available and popular in both MCUs and SOCs. The MCU ecosystem is already well developed, but SOCs have greater dependencies, and software stacks that have only recently been marked as production ready. As always happens with new stuff, the hardware people are waiting for broader software support, and the software people are waiting for a larger hardware installed base. This talk will examine the forces that are driving RISC-V forward, and what still needs to happen for RISC-V SOCs to go mainstream. * Chris Swan is a long term member of the OSHUG community, and past speaker on security, homebrew projects and the Open Compute Project. In his Engineer role at Atsign he’s been involved in bringing RISC-V support for the Dart programming language into Docker official images. That’s given him a front row seat to how hardware and software have been developing over the past few years. Chris contributes to the broader community as a Google Developer Expert (GDE), InfoQ editor and co-host for the Tech Debt Burndown Podcast. — Emulating the great machines of the past! There are now many excellent software emulations of early systems such as the PDP-8 and PDP-11 and as such they work well and support the various operating systems and applications. However, the excitement of operating the functioning front panel cannot be beaten! The range of DEC machines now available as functioning replicas will be shown and the techniques used to emulate both the software and hardware will be discussed. * Kevin Murrell is a retired software industry entrepreneur. He co-founded The National Museum of Computing with Tony Sale in 2005. He is the author of several books on the history of British computing and is an authority early home computing. He is a committee member of the Computer Conservation Society and serves as editor of its journal, Resurrection. — This is Not a Chip Butty, but bare silicon needs COB and a PCB, Dave Getting custom, open-source silicon back from the foundry is amazing, but a piece of silicon won't do much without connectivity. This talk offers a look into the practicalities of getting bare, open-source die connected to the PCB using Chip-on-Board (COB) wire bonding. While COB is a standard industry process, most factories expect automated, high-volume runs. When you turn up with an artisanal batch of assorted chips, things can get somewhat experimental. We will dive into how multiple Open Source ASIC project die were bonded to boards, the physical realities of the assembly process, and the fun to be had along the way. * Stuart Childs has spent the last decade working directly with factories in China, acting as the glue between the clever people and the manufacturing hubs that can make the things. Before diving into industrial production, Stuart was a member of the UK Maker Belt and wider UK Maker scene, increasingly bringing colour, silliness, and fun to the workplace. As a member of Tiny Tapeout and a long-term Wuthering Bytes attendee, he combines a passion for open-source hardware with the joy of working with others on unusual projects. — A Multi-Function Instrument for School Physics Experiments An overview of school physics apparatus shows that much can be traced back to the work of the Nuffield Science Teaching Project in the 1960’s. Modern equivalents, having no other commercial use, are expensive. Off-the-Shelf commercial instruments are a poor match to educational requirements. Solutions using general purpose computers raise many IT support problems in a school environment. The multi-function instrument can replace several separate instruments. The emphasis is on suitability for the school environment: robust, simple to use, and lacking extra features that serve little pedagogical purpose. The objective is to produce an open hardware and software design that can be easily reproduced by others or form the basis for alternative variations. * Alan Bernard. After an apprenticeship with Thorn Electrical Industries leading to a degree in Electrical and Electronic Engineering at Bradford University Alan joined a small company where he designed nucleonic equipment, electronic organs, and apparatus for the Nuffield Physics Project. After running his own business manufacturing instrumentation for the wire-drawing industry he joined ITT developing liquid crystal displays. This led to him designing Public Information Displays for airports, bus and train stations, and on-board trains. Finally, he worked as a physics technician at Bradford Grammar School; a position he held for 12 years before retiring at age 72. — Powering Your Home With Your Car How to utilise your very own Big Battery for '1/10th' the price of a "Home Power Wall". (The car comes for free!) This adventure takes low cost overnight “off-peak” electricity, and the occasionally available zero cost excess grid electricity. By utilising the woefully underutilised battery in my EV, it is possible to then power a home each day with those low cost electrons to avoid the much more expensive non-off-peak electrons. Except… There are no UK agreed standards for doing that yet. Here is a personal all-Open-Source story for economically connecting a home to a Big Battery on wheels. * Martin Lomas has followed the world of computers since the beginnings of the home computer revolution in the UK. He gained degrees in Computer Engineering and subsequently Computer Systems Design. At Fujitsu he worked on, at the time, the world’s largest Application Specific Integrated Circuit ICs. He moved back to academia to develop cutting edge Scanning Probe Microscopes for biophysical investigations at the dept of Pharmaceutical Sciences, The University of Nottingham, gaining his PhD. Martin then supported a multinational pharma research company for all their open source server and computing needs, becoming their IT Director. Since then, he works for himself. More recently, he is considering his next career adventure! Especially, he enjoys making new things and making them work well! He also enjoys hiking, beer, wine, cheese, and the world of Linux. His interests span across technology and science, and computing and the ongoing old/new phenomenon now Marketed as “AI”. — FreeCAD Improvements and Exciting Uses FreeCAD the open source CAD package for mechanical engineering and more has had heaps of development in the last few years. Whilst we aren't quite at the "replace Catia or Solidworks in all sectors" tipping point yet we have lots more users, a better (but by no means perfect) user experience and we are beginning to see FreeCAD getting used in all manner of cutting edge use cases. In this talk Jo will quickly run through some of the developments and explore why it might be worth people who previously didn't enjoy FreeCAD to take another look. We'll blast by some high end applications of FreeCAD such as computational fluid dynamics, multi body dynamics and FEA and also squint at some interesting projects undertaken by organisations you might not at first glance think would use FreeCAD! I'll throw in some fun aspects of the community development and talk about FreeCAD's upcoming (but hopefully delivered by the time this talk takes place) first round of their global open source hardware design competition! * Jo Hinchliffe is a freelance technical writer and community developer working across a variety of technical sectors with a passion for open source. Jo is the author of FreeCAD for Makers, a well received book from the Raspberry Pi Press covering beginner and intermediate level usage of FreeCAD. Also on the Raspberry Pi Press Jo has authored “Design an RP2040 Board with KiCad” which not only covers the basics of designing a PCB for fabrication, it goes on to cover automated assembly services, virtual warehousing and more. In article form Jo has written for many platforms, these include multiple STEM/STEAM articles for the American magazine Kids Code and Computer Science, these articles range from tutorials on micro controller projects, to fun maths activities and articles highlighting historic STEM figures. For the Raspberry Pi Press magazines Jo has written dozens of articles and features. Often his own projects, these have included a wide variety of subjects, wooden boat building, an opensource carbon fibre filament winding machine, watch making, cable lacing in space, and much more. A somewhat complete list of articles can be found here. Toms Hardware, Jo has written numerous articles for Toms Hardware including a series on basic use of the Linux terminal. Finally when Jo isn’t writing for his paid clients he can currently be found writing, designing and publishing a free and open source magazine of his own called SOURCE. — Open Wetware: How a bioart project inspired a biopunk future This talk will summarise the current trend in biodesign/art to open source 'recipes', through the lens of a recent art project Phycologica, which attempted rather foolishly to reimagine a LCD screen made out of algae. While I wouldn't recommend anyone else reproducing our design- it would just lead to more ewaste- I believe there was still great value in the process of doing this project and in sparking imagination. This was never intended to be rebuilt in its current form. Through preparing this talk I would like to explore, while documenting the important bits of project- the recipes, the care guide, the ethics, what is the value of documenting a project like this? I am also interested in exploring the documentation itself as an artwork- beyond the original piece. We won't reach a more technologically sustainable (solarpunk) future without community collaboration and sharing- the exact ethos of open source hardware. Therefore I propose that the goal of documenting this project will be to collate a library of alternative, bio appropriate technologies that are more aligned to a sustainable society that we want to see in the future. Jon Somerscales is an Experience Designer & Interaction Prototyper researching novel interactions and regenerative design that could highlight better outcomes for us and the planet through a critical making practice. His interactive design work spans digital software, services and installations. Studio Blue Green's Phycologica artwork is a collaboration between Jon Somerscales and Andrew Stone. Studio Blue Green aims to Amplify and recenter living systems through experience design and creative technology, creating impactful, planet-first interventions, encouraging environmental stewardship and ecological consciousness. // Compered by: Kevin Murrell // Swap Table Due to popular demand there will once again be a swap table at Open Source Hardware Camp, where delegates can bring along surplus components, dev kits and (smaller!) unfinished projects to give away and swap with others. Please note that larger items such as VDUs and printers must not be brought along and any unwanted items must be removed at the end of the day! ITEMS ARE PROVIDED “AS IS” AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE ORGANISERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF ITEMS RECEIVED, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. *** Sunday :: Workshops *** — Practising the use of LLMs with open source electronics projects This workshop will explore some hands-on use of some of the emerging tools, LLMs and strategies for using them in the engineering space. We will play with some of what is already available, and explore exciting possibilities on the horizon. We will also discuss common challenges that we need to overcome including pitfalls, risks and limitations. So, if you are practicing hardware/firmware engineer, or hobbyist this workshop gives you an opportunity to tinker with the OSHW future. Participants should bring: - A laptop. Hosted by: Alan Wood. — Retro Computing Simulation Some of us hanker after an original minicomputer with all the switches and lights but no longer have access to the hardware. Indeed, few of us have the space required to recreate installations from those early days when disk drives were the size of washing machines! There are excellent software emulations of many of these early systems, but the excitement of operating a functioning front panel cannot be beaten! We expect to be demonstrating the following running replicas: - Wireless World Computer - Raspberry Pi based PDP-1, PDP-8, PDP-11 and the PDP-10 - FPGA-based LGP-30 - FPGA-based PDP-8 - IMSAI 8080 We will show the systems running and welcome user interaction. So, get out the old CP/M handbook and the DEC Introduction to Programming and off we go! Participants should bring: - A laptop. Hosted by: Kevin Murrell. — The Project Salon The project salon is part show and tell and part project clinic, which will provide an opportunity to discuss projects and share skills and experience with fellow OSHCamp delegates. For example, this might be showing off your latest creation, sharing details of a neat hack, or seeking advice on a particularly tricky problem which has brought your project to a standstill. Rod Moody will be bringing along Raftabar — the autonomous robot which made its debut at OSHCamp 2024 — and sharing details of numerous upgrades made over the past few years. Short presentations are welcome and if using slides these should be in PDF or OpenDocument Presentation format. Participants should optionally bring: - A project. Exercise common sense! E.g. nothing large or dangerous etc. - Slides (PDF or OpenDocument Presentation format). Hosted by: * Andy Bennett. * Rod Moody was born in 1940 and at 15 years of age started an electrical engineering apprenticeship with Dale Electric, a manufacturer of diesel-engine driven electrical generators ranging from a few kW to a few MW, for both base load and standby applications. Through day release and night class he gained an HNC in electrical engineering, and at the age of 19 was appointed to the post of Test Department Manager. He went on to become Electrical Engineering Manager responsible for running the design office and designing control systems using relay logic, and following which Engineering Director. In 1992, at 52 years of age Rod joined Deep Sea Electronics as their Engineering Manager. DSE were quite small at that time and using through-hole technology, but with improved product design and the introduction of SMT production they grew very rapidly over the eight years before Rod retired in year 2000 at 60 years of age. DSE are now the leading supplier of microprocessor based controllers to generating set manufacturing companies worldwide. In retirement Rod spends most of his spare time with projects involving mechanics, electronics, and software using the Raspberry Pi and Arduino microcontrollers. He continues to be a keen gardener as he has been from an early age, has a keen interest in all aspects of science and engineering, and is currently leader of the York U3A Science & Engineering World group. NOTE: - There are separate tickets for Saturday and Sunday. - A light lunch will be provided each day. - Please aim to arrive between 09:00 and 09:15 on the Saturday as the event will start at 09:20 prompt. -- Andrew Back https://abopen.com

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Open Source Hardware Camp 2026 CFP — Sat 29/08 & Sun 30/08, Hebden Bridge..
by Andrew Back 17 Apr '26

17 Apr '26

Hello, Please find details below of the call for participation for Open Source Hardware Camp 2026, which will mark 15 years since the very first OSHCamp was held at C4CC in London. Tickets are not on sale yet, but these will be £12/day and this includes lunch, plus tea/coffee. Those presenting and running workshops will receive free tickets. Budget accommodation is available at Hebden Bridge IOU Hostel, which adjoins the venue, and there are plenty of B&Bs, plus a number of small hotels in the area. Any questions don't hesitate to get in touch! Cheers, Andrew // -+- Open Source Hardware Camp 2026 -+- This year Open Source Hardware Camp will take place over the weekend of Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th August, at The Birchcliffe Centre, Birchcliffe Road, Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, HX7 8DG. Proposals for talks and workshops for OSHCamp 2026 are invited! There is no theme and topics may include, for example: * Open source hardware projects * Open development practices and principles * Novel/interesting/fun projects built using open source hardware * Tools (hardware and software) * Skills and techniques, e.g. PCB fab, DIY SMT assembly * Relevant technologies, e.g. SPI/I2C bus programming * ...something else relevant to the community If you would like to give a talk on the Saturday and/or run a workshop on the Sunday, please submit details via the form at: https://forms.gle/CgJFtjpMUmsMpvQa8 Any questions can be sent to andrew at abopen.com. ~~ A social event is planned for the Saturday evening ~~ **** Note that the deadline for submitting titles and abstracts is Thursday 30th April at 17:00. If you would like to discuss ideas etc. please get in touch sooner, rather than later. **** -- Andrew Back https://abopen.com

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Sniffing PCIe on a budget
by Sevan Janiyan 08 Apr '26

08 Apr '26

Hiya, This video showed up in my bubble. Someone setup hooking up a PCIe bus over fibre optic cable, and then with that working used a splitter cable to pass a copy of the traffic to another device which sniffs & dumps the traffic to disk for analysis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaDa9bBucEI Sevan

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The Queen's Head - 24/02/2026
by Sevan Janiyan 24 Feb '26

24 Feb '26

Hi, Should we meet up for old times sake as a one off, given the recent news about Ken? I was thinking The Queen's Head on the 24th of February (Tuesday), 6:30 onwards. 66 Acton Street London WC1X 9NB https://www.queensheadlondon.com Sincerely, Sevan

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Re: The Queen's Head - 24/02/2026
by Sevan Janiyan 05 Feb '26

05 Feb '26

Hi Lawrence, On 05/02/2026 17:41, Lawrence Archard wrote: > I think that's a great idea, but it is the night of IoTLondon. I'm sure > Alex would be pleased to combine the events if you get in touch. > Currently (as usual) oversubscribed. Thanks for the heads up about the event. The Queen's Head was a pub we used to head to after OSHUG, when it was held at the Centre for Creative Collaboration, which was just on the other end of the road to the pub. Sevan

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Sad news about Ken Boak
by Sevan Janiyan 31 Jan '26

31 Jan '26

Hi, This showed up in my bubble https://retrocomputingforum.com/t/rip-ken-boak-aka-monsonite/5536 apparently Ken passed away. :( Sincerely, Sevan

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ShrimpingIt website
by Sevan Janiyan 30 Jan '26

30 Jan '26

Hi folks, Hope you're all doing ok. I randomly looked up ShrimpingIt last night and realised the site is gone and the domain is up for sale. Seems like it was active up until early September this year. Anyone know what happened to the site? Sincerely, Sevan

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Free Barcode Scanners
by Andy Bennett 06 Aug '25

06 Aug '25

Hi, I have some old PTC-960SL Barcode Scanners that I bought many years ago. You know, because we all do a barcode project at some point and I know they have been popular on the swap table before. :-) Now is the time that I need to pass them on. They're free to a good home. If you're interested in obtaining them, read on! Here's what they are: * 5x Telxon PTC-960SL handheld barcode scanners. * The Telxon brand means they predate the Symbol acquistion in 2000. * They run embedded MS-DOS and have "RamSaver" (which means you can replace the battery without a reboot). * The software includes a TCP stack, telnet, rlogin and configuration menu. * Integrated laser barcode reader. * They only read 1D barcodes. No QR codes, data matrix or anything like that. * They have some kind of 2.4GHz spread spectrum radio that the software detects as 802.11. * i.e. original Wifi - no a, b, g, n or any of that other stuff. * You'll need to write your own app to make these do anything interesting. They have telnet and rlogin clients and you can switch the trigger and laser scanner on for the appropriate fields at the appropriate times. * 6 old battery packs. * They work but if you do anything serious with them you'll probably want to strip them down and replace the cells. * A 4-bay battery charging station with PSU. * They look very cool. * They beep and have lasers. Here's some photos of what you'll get and a link to some of the docs. http://www.ashurst.eu.org/download/tmp/gal-barcode-scanners/index.html Collection only from Battersea Accessible via Nothern Line to Battersea Power Station, Southern Rail to Battersea Park, South Western Rail to Queenstown Road, and Buses 44, 137, 452, 436, 156. Free to a good home. Caveat emptor. No returns. Best wishes, @ndy -- andyjpb(a)ashurst.eu.org http://www.ashurst.eu.org/ 0x7EBA75FF

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OT: Replicating functionality of existing blinds controller
by Chris Puttick 03 Oct '24

03 Oct '24

Hi all Seeking electronics expertise (when it comes to making I'm better at wood!). A few years ago we pushed the boat out while completing an "extension extension" and re-roof project by adding electrically operated between-glass blinds with solar-charged blind controllers to the windows. The controllers are starting to fail, mostly battery or charging circuit issues and without them the blinds don't work. I'd be not too bothered, except the manufacturer and their distributors are charging an eye-watering £135 for a replacement unit and the units are kind of flaky in use (need resetting often, which is done by plugging them to a (any) USB charger). The units consist of a USB charging port (for when the solar isn't enough to keep them charged), a 5 point connector and 2 touch sensitive areas with LED back lights, and a simple RF remote control, powered by a small battery (3.7V, 2700mAh). The most complex element is the ability to program (via reset and counting light flashes etc.) the units to respond to 99 different channels on the remote - I can imagine a commercial setup where that might be useful, or if you have the functionality in every room (though 99 is a lot of rooms...) but in practice we use the controller to raise/lower all the blinds at once, so only use one channel So the questions... how practical would it be to reproduce this functionality, with a similar physical form factor so they can attach to the window mounts (which are wired to the motors inside the window and the tiny solar panels on the outside), in part (no RF or simple RF controls all units) or in whole (99 channels does seem excessive...)? Given the price being charged for replacements, it might be feasible to replace the window mount and solar panel if that makes it more practical (requires popping the window from the frame but that's not a lot of work for someone who knows double glazing). At a simpler level, how easy is it likely to be to source suitably shaped batteries to replace battery units? All input welcome and if you need more info to provide better input please don't hesitate to request it. Cheers Chris -- @putt1ck Opinions in this email are my own and may not reflect that of my clients, past employers, associates, friends, family, pets etc..

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