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It's also a very explicit way of ensuring the idea is published as patent offices often miss minor publications (e.g. unless a mailing list has indexed/searchable archives it would probably not be seen) and once a patent is granted it takes a huge effort to overturn. Better publish this way and then grant open use.
The night before last (Friday night), I coïncidentally found an article of great relevance by Andrew Huang (Bunnie); when checking back through my emails for something else, I saw an email from 2018-12-27Thu with subjectline “You Can’t Opt Out of the Patent System” on my local LUG that I'd marked/starred but hadn't got round to opening, until Friday night.
https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5421 (quoted below for the record and my own email searchability)
I was very pleased to find that it is of perfect relevance to this discussion, and that I'm not the only one who perceives serious danger for OSH – indeed there are examples to back this up – and it highlights the gross asymmetry of filing versus overturning that you mention with actual figures which clearly show that the patent system is brutally rigged against individuals. That they have no obligation to even bother with minor publications, let alone it being accidental, I'm glad that I took the precaution to think about how I proceed with publishing patentable ideas. However, I don't immediately see how Patent Pandas (https://PatentPandas.org ) is a solution, other than to highlight the problem and call for a solution.
I was also shocked to see a comment about the impact of patents on bees, requiring an effort against them (OpenSourceBees.org).
Best regards,
James R. Haigh.
P.s.: I'm still thinking about your other comments.
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On 2018-11-30Fri, at
https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5421 , Bunnie posted:
> You Can’t Opt Out of the Patent System. That’s Why Patent Pandas Was Created!
> A prevailing notion among open source developers is that “patents are bad for open source”, which means they can be safely ignored by everyone without consequence. Unfortunately, there is no way to opt-out of patents. Even if an entire community has agreed to share ideas and not patent them, there is nothing in practice that stops a troll from outside the community cherry-picking ideas and attempting to patent them. It turns out that patent examiners spend about 12 hours on average to review a patent, which is only enough time to search the existing patent database for prior art. That’s right — they don’t check github, academic journals, or even do a simple Google search for key words.
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> Once a patent has been granted, even with extensive evidence of prior art, it is an expensive process to challenge it. The [asymmetry of the cost to file a patent](
https://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/fees-and-payment/uspto-fee-sche... ) — around $300 — versus the cost to challenge an improperly granted patent — around $15,000-$20,000 — creates an opportunity for trolls to patent-spam innovative open source ideas, and even if only a fraction of the patent-spam is granted, it’s still profitable to shake down communities for multiple individual settlements that are each somewhat less than the cost to challenge the patent.
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> Even though in practice open source developers are “in the right” that the publication and sharing of ideas creates prior art, in practice the fact that the community routinely shuns patents means our increasingly valuable ideas are only becoming more vulnerable to trolling. Many efforts have been launched to create prior art archives, but unfortunately, examiners are not required to search them, so in practice these archives offer little to no protection against patent spamming.
>
> The co-founder of [Chibitronics](
https://chibitronics.com/ ), [Jie Qi](
http://technolojie.com/ ), was a victim of not one but two instances of patent-spam on her circuit sticker invention. In one case, [a crowdfunding backer patented her idea](
https://patentpandas.org/stories/crowdfunding-backer-patented-my-project ), and in another, a [large company (Google) attempted to patent her idea after encountering it in a job interview](
https://patentpandas.org/stories/company-patented-my-idea ). In response to this, Jie spent a couple years studying patent law and working with law clinics to understand her rights. She’s started a website, [Patent Pandas](
https://patentpandas.org/ ), to share her findings and create a resource for other small-time and open source innovators who are in similar dilemmas.
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> As Jie’s experience demonstrates, you can’t opt-out of patents. Simply being open is unfortunately not good enough to prevent trolls from patent-spamming your inventions, and copyright licenses like BSD are well, copyright licenses, so they aren’t much help when it comes to patents: copyrights protect the expression of ideas, not the ideas themselves. Only patents can protect functional concepts.
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